In episode, we chat about the gap in nutrition education for doctors, what Akash Patel is doing about it, and more!
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About Featured Guest: Akash Patel
Akash Patel is a medical student at the University of Miami with aspirations to become a medical doctor and specialize in Oncology.
He is passionate about nutrition, and created a science based social media page: @_plantitude on Instagram, where he breaks down nutrition research.
He is currently implementing a nutrition curriculum for medical students at his university.
Transcript
Christine: Welcome to ‘the Plant Powered Podcast!’ This is the resource for all things vegan nutrition. I’m Christine-your host and vegan bestie, and I also happen to be a Dietitian. As a disclaimer, this podcast is just providing education and a bit of entertainment. If you have any questions about your health or diet, talk to your own healthcare provider.
Our full disclaimers will be linked to in the show notes. Now let’s get to the episode.
Akash welcome to the podcast!
Akash: Thank you for having me.
Christine: You know, I typically have dietitians on the podcast, but today we’re doing something a bit different. Akash Patel is a medical student, bringing more attention to the need for more nutrition education for medical students.
And I was so interested in his story. So I just had to have you on the podcast to talk about it!
Now, if you’re not familiar with him, here’s a bit from his bio. Akash is a medical student like I mentioned, and nutrition advocate dedicated to integrating nutrition into medical education. He studied business at the George Washington University, while on the pre-medical track, before pursuing his medical degree, and MBA at the University of Miami. His passion for nutrition led him to design and implement a formal nutrition curriculum at his medical school, where he not only developed the content, but also delivers lectures on the role of diet and disease.
He also runs an evidence based science-based nutrition page on social media which – I found you through, where he breaks down research, surrounding plant-based diets and addresses, common misconceptions. And, boy, are there so many? Am I right?
Akash: Yeah.
Christine: Yes, and he plans to specialize in oncology and hopes to shift the medical field towards a more nutrition conscious and preventative approach to patient care.
Akash: Yeah.
Christine: So on this episode, we’re going to learn more about Akash story. Why, he thinks it’s so important we address nutrition in medical education, because, you know, sometimes there is this… a little bit of a rumor, maybe? If you will, that there isn’t much education in the medical field for doctors, and so we’re going to see what your experience has been like, if that is true or not…
But 1st up! This is a vegan podcast, so I have to ask all my guests first: what is your vegan origin story?
Akash: So my 1st of all, thank you for the intro!
My vegan origin story: I was actually raised vegetarian. So my family is Hindu so my whole family is vegetarian, and I would tell people for the longest time that I was vegetarian for animal reasons, because I am a big animal lover. and I think over time. I slowly started to learn more about what happened in the dairy and egg industries and kind of just ignored it to avoid that cognitive dissonance, but eventually came to terms with that.
And around the same time I also started learning more about nutrition for my own health, for my family’s health, and I saw how much data there was out there about plant-based dietary patterns /plant forward diets, and so it kind of just came together at the same time. Where I’m like, okay, this seems to make sense to move more towards a plant predominant diet.
And then eventually, I was eating like 90% plant-based. And then was like, okay, I can go the extra 10% to do it for the animals and the environmental reasons. And so kind of just happened naturally over time, as I was exposed to more reasons. And then, of course, as I’m sure you and many others have experienced, the more you learn, the more it just makes sense.
Christine: Wow! Oh, my goodness! So you 1st got exposed to like the realities of the industry – it sounds like… How was that? Was that through, like a documentary or…?
Akash: Yeah, I watched a few Netflix documentaries. I know there’s a bunch of common ones that people watch. But those were more related to the health side of things. So I think it was health game changers, and I’ve always been very into health and fitness, and so I was very much the ‘gym bro’ who just worried about my macros, and as long as I was getting enough protein that was fine.
So most of my meals had dairy and eggs like I had never heard of tofu or tempeh, or any of the plant proteins. And then was finally exposed to some of those things just in my own research, like exploring more of the plant proteins, and I never really thought that I would fully go vegan.
I started cooking more meals with plant proteins, and as I slowly transitioned, it became a point where I got up one day and I was like, ‘Wait, I think I’m Vegan!’
Christine: Well, that’s quite the story! And I’m sure that if you’ve seen those documentaries, it’s also kind of reassuring to know about the environmental benefits as well right, especially with our climate as it is today.
Akash: Yeah, I think it definitely gets lost in the conversations in the environmental space. Now that I work with some of the climate change organizations at our school, and more locally in Miami, where I’m based… It’s definitely overlooked how much our food choices influence the environment, personal experience, not to say that most people in this space aren’t looking at it. But just in my personal experience we sometimes look at the connection with health a little differently as opposed – what’s on our plates.
Christine: Because it can be very difficult, as you say, like, you know, you were interested, but it took a while for you to fully make that switch, because, we live in a world that is mostly not vegan. So it’s 1 thing for us to have the knowledge of what happens. But another thing to like do it right? Because we’re so far removed from these effects that we don’t see like changes in the climate, or what’s actually going on in the slaughterhouses? Right? So yeah, it’s a big. It’s a hard thing for folks to do.
So you know, I like to tell people like if they’re interested in making the switch, if it’s appropriate nutritionally, to really try to go very gradually, because it can be sort of a culture shock, right? If you just go like cold Tofurky, or something like that.
Akash: Yeah, exactly. And I think it depends on the person too. For some, it’s easier just to, you know, switch overnight. Depending on personality. But I think for most people the gradual change is the most effective and most sustainable long term
Christine: Yeah, because, you know, sometimes people will just go all in like they saw/ they watched something. And they’re like, Oh, I’m going to do this, and then they’re like, Oh, the garn, like I miss the cheese, or like cottage cheese (I haven’t seen a vegan good substitute for that – that like actually tastes like cottage cheese, right?)
So it can it can. You know it can wear on you a little bit. And so compassion. Right? If we’re going to make this change sustainable, let’s have compassion for the folks doing it, too. But anyways, we got that was a tangent. I’m here to talk about your story today!
So I mentioned that you are doing this groundbreaking thing, in my opinion, with bringing more awareness to nutrition education for medical students. So I wanted to know:
Why did you decide to go to medical school?
Akash: I think it was pretty multifactorial for me. There was a lot of aspects of medicine that just seemed to make sense.
Firstly, the the content, like the science behind it, I found it fascinating. But then also, I really knew that I valued interpersonal relationships. And so medicine really seemed to check off that box, too, because you have that opportunity to serve people. You have that opportunity to build close relationships and really personalize your care based on how you get to know these patients and build relationships.
Obviously some specialties have more longitudinal care than others. But that was something else that really appealed to me. It was intellectually stimulating, and it’s really a field that is constantly advancing. So I really like that as well. The medicine’s constantly advancing, and it’s really a lifelong career of learning. And so that those 3 things are the main things that really appealed to me. And it just makes sense with my personality and my goals to try to help people through that way.
Christine: Yeah, so important to be a lifelong learner, isn’t it? Just to be open to… not to be set in our ways of what we thought we knew about something, because things…we just we discover more right through the scientific research.
So what is it like for someone to become a doctor in the US. What do they have to go through
Akash: So generally the process is, you finish high school, and then you do. 4 years of, or… doesn’t have to be 4 years, but as long as you finish the pre-medical requirements.
Generally it’s through a traditional 4 year undergraduate degree. But you finish the pre-med requirements, and then it’s 4 years of medical school. And so that’s still general training. Everyone gets the same training for medical school.
So that’s the stage I’m in right now, I’m in my 3rd year of medical finishing up my 3rd year. So I have one year left after this, and then you go on to specialty specific training. So depending on what do you want to go into?
So you mentioned in my bio, I want to go into oncology. So, for example, that path after this looks like 3 years of internal medicine residency, and then a 3 year fellowship in hematology, oncology. So that’s going to vary based on what specialty you want to go into what that training looks like after medical school.
Christine: Wow, okay. And do you have like a dream residency program you’re interested in?
Akash: It’s tough to say! It’s just a competitive process- ‘the match process’- it actually just passed for the year above me ‘the match day’ they call it.
And it’s it’s tough to say… I’m still doing research on formulating a list programs that I’m interested in. Also, considering geographically where I’d like to go. My family is all back up in New York, so we’ll see at the moment if I have a dream program!
Christine: Okay, yeah. I didn’t know if there was like any really well-known ones for, like oncology or anything like that since that’s something you’re interested.
So interesting! Why are you so interested in oncology as opposed to all the other things you could get into?
Akash: Some of it has to do with the same reasons that I was interested in medicine just on a deeper level. So like I talked about the connection with patients. I think in oncology. In particular, there’s a very special relationship not to say that you don’t have that in other specialties, but especially in oncology, there’s a particularly deep connection with the patient. Same thing with the constant advancement of the field. I think there’s so much to learn with oncology still, maybe relative to some other specialties.
And so I felt like going into a field that has so much potential for growth – it would bring that level of that dynamic component of constant change and lifelong learning, but also give me the opportunity to contribute to the changes in that field. So then, you’re not just influencing the patients that you care for in your lifetime, but also the ones afterwards that might benefit from any changes that you contribute to the field.
So those are the aspects that really drew me to cancer. And just the fact that it’s in many ways, it’s still so much of a mystery to us, that challenging component of it.
Christine: Wow! Fascinating. Yeah, I would imagine out of all the the stuff that you could go into, that would be a very interesting field. I know of somebody who is doing their surgical residency. So they want to be a surgeon. So it’s very fascinating to hear about the whole process for that.
You’re also doing an MBA dual degree. So how does that factor into with any of this? Do you want to do like health administration? Or…?
Akash: I think there’s a lot of routes. You can go with it.
I noticed that a lot of doctors that I knew were going back to get their MBA’s at night for various reasons. The main reasons being to move up into administrative roles in health systems, and, I really had the business background from college, and I like having a wide array of knowledge. So it kind of made sense to do a dual degree program. So you have a good mix of the science material from and the medical side, as well as also with the MBA material.
Not sure exactly what I want to do with it. It definitely can give me some flexibility down the line. If I want to move into an administrative role.
If I move into private practice, it helps to have some background in business. And really you know as much as we hate to admit it, like- the medical system revolves around money. And is a business in a lot of ways. And so I think to at the very least, to have that knowledge is important, because you can advocate for your patients in a better way if you understand all the financial barriers to care that exist, and how to navigate that and help your patients navigate that.
Christine: Interesting. That is so interesting.
So you have those those 2 interests it sounds like. And to add on to that, of course, you’re passionate about nutrition. So you have just all these different interests. But I’ve noticed…I found you through your Instagram page, I believe, where you talk about nutrition science, and you break down some of the research in our plant-based space.
So why are you so passionate about about nutrition, and, how much is in your medical curriculum?
Akash: I became passionate about, Well… I’ve always been passionate about health, and that kind of naturally led me to nutrition as one of those main components, and I was always interested in how I could thrive with the alterations in my diet and a lot of times that was just hitting my protein goals because I just cared about lifting.
But then you take into consideration, not just being healthy on the outside, but healthy on the inside as well, and from a longevity standpoint, from a you know, disease, risk standpoint. And especially for my family members as well. So I don’t know exactly where it originated from, but just, I’ve always been drawn to living a healthy life, and then you know, as I researched it on my own, I saw more and more how powerful of a tool it is, and the expectation kind of made sense that this is something we would learn in medical school!
And you called it a rumor earlier that doctors don’t learn a lot of nutrition, but it’s not a rumor. Unfortunately it’s not It’s a required part of any medical curriculum. So it’s not just my school. There’s no requirement from the governing bodies that there are any nutrition competencies met in a nutrition curriculum, and it’s also not tested on our board exams.
The nutrition that is tested is like specific vitamin deficiencies, and how they may present in patient care, but not like dietary patterns for disease, reduction, or longevity or health span, that that we’re more interested in in this context, and so unfortunately very true that there’s not much nutrition training for doctors. And the National Research Council recommended… I believe it was 25 hours – This was in year 1985, of nutrition training for doctors, and I think over 70% of schools still fail to meet that.
The ones who do meet that… it’s not consistent across medical school, because there’s no standardized curriculum, whereas with everything else, we more or less learn the same things about, you know, pathophysiology states within different specialties, like cardiology and different body systems like, that’s all more or less the same. But when it comes to nutrition. There’s nothing formal or standardized.
Christine: Wow! That’s so interesting!
Akash: There was a little bit in our school in our 1st year, but for the most part not much, of significance anywhere.
Christine: Wow! Well, so you have a fascinating story, of course. So you recognized this problem, didn’t you? And now you’re doing something about it. So tell me a bit about what you’re doing to bring more education to your medical school.
Akash: Yeah. So like I said, it didn’t really make sense. If you look at like our top killers in this country, most of them are directly affected by diet. And so most of these chronic diseases that have a huge burden on our society cause so many premature deaths, have a huge economic burden on our healthcare system- are directly influenced by diet and other modifiable risk factors, and so are largely preventable by lifestyle.
And so didn’t make sense that we are not given the tools to actually get people healthy in that way, and for a lot of reasons, not just from a medical education, medical education standpoint.
You know, we have a system that tends to be very reactive. Not very preventive. And again, that’s for many reasons, but outside of just medical education.
But so I kind of saw that gap, and it didn’t really make much sense to me that you know, doctors aren’t equipped with these basic tools to improve their patients health in this way. And so I had approached administration at my school and had basically expressed all this to them, and they were super receptive!
I’m fortunate to go to a program where they’re very receptive to student feedback, always trying to improve their curriculum. Stay on top of you know how they can change their curriculum every year to constantly improve it.
And so, they had given me the opportunity to come up with some materials to be implemented as like a ‘test in the curriculum.’ And so, I was a ‘second year’ (medical student) at the time. The 1st year students were starting their cardiology module. It was their 1st body system, and I had come up with the lecture, and so I had given it to the Cardiology professor to deliver.
But he actually said, I want you to give this! And he’s great, also very receptive, and so that was really cool. It was definitely out of my comfort zone from a public speaking standpoint. I didn’t expect it to get there, but I gave the lecture, and it was really well received both by students and faculty.
And so I ended up giving another lecture that year during their GI (Gastrointestinal) module on gut microbiome and some of the research on that, and how diet plays a role. And I also gave one later on, during their endocrinology module on type 2 diabetes. And so it kind of turned into this like nutrition lecture series.
And what was nice is that it was longitudinally built. And so it’s integrated into the curriculum, and they’re seeing it on multiple occasions. And so I was trying to not only give them the knowledge of what exists out there in terms of the research connecting diet to different disease states, but also how to apply it into patient care, because I think there’s both science and an art to it as well.
And so now I’m kind of in this phase right now, where I’m thinking more about how to build something permanent for the… because once I graduate right, you know, there might not be someone to give the lectures. Is it the most effective way to deliver the curriculum.
And so now we’re looking at ways to really standardize it and make a formal curriculum. And I’ve been really fortunate to have the support of faculty, as well as many other medical students who share this passion to help me with this. And we’re really trying to build this out from the ground up and also make it scalable in a way that can be scaled to every medical program and standardized.
So that’s bit of a brief overview of how it was born and where it’s at right now.
Christine: Wow, that’s amazing. And so I think you also did a research on it as well, didn’t you? Did I see you post that on your story like you had a research study about it?
Akash: We’ve just been collecting some data from the students to see if /how effective the nutrition lecture series is.
So then we can collect feedback to see if they’re learning from it, if they feel more comfortable applying this to patient care, and so far the preliminary data shows: Yes.
And so we’re kind of using this to make a case for more formal nutrition training that can then be like, I said, standardized and scaled to other medical programs. It’ll help with pitching it to other schools to adopt the curriculum that we create if we have some data showing why it’s important and why it’s effective.
Christine: Yes, and this is where your MBA skills or your business degree skills will come into play, too. Right?
Are they paying you to do this?
Akash: No, it’s just…
Christine: A passion project?
Akash: Yeah, it’s a passion project. And I’m really just passionate about seeing it through and seeing that students receive this education and so that it can ultimately help the patients that they see in their careers.
Christine: Wow? Well, that it certainly is dedication, because I know as as someone who’s an instructor myself, that it takes a long time to get ready for those lectures, doesn’t it?
Akash: And especially like the 1st time I made one it! It was like the 1st time, I think a medical student had given like, a mandatory lecture at the school not like an optional lecture.
And so it was a lot of pressure, but in a good way. I wanted to make sure it was perfect, because, also I knew that it would be the foundations, for whether this would be adopted further in the curriculum.
So definitely time consuming, but all worth it!
Christine: Yeah, well, and that could be another avenue that you potentially go to, you know, with all your options, maybe you decide to work at a university doing this potentially.
Akash: Yeah.
Christine: Amazing. Well, I am so excited to see where that goes, because that would be awesome if we had more nutrition education for doctors. Maybe I’m a little bit biased as a dietitian!
Speaking of bias, though, as you shared your vegan origin story, it’s no secret that you identify as Vegan. So, did you ever get some criticism that your you know-your content, or whatever is biased because you are vegan yourself.
Akash: That’s a good question. And it was something that I was pretty cognizant of when I made the lectures, not just because I didn’t want to be accused of being biased. I also wanted to check my own biases.
I think it’s very important to frame the context within which we’re discussing veganism and plant-based diets, because I think from a health standpoint, I can say with confidence that more plant forward dietary patterns, like, you know, centered around plants tend to be the healthiest for human health and disease risk reduction and health span.
But it’s hard to say necessarily that someone who’s a hundred percent plant-based is going to be healthier than someone who’s (approximating/ an example) 90% plant based with the inclusion of some animal products -like a more Mediterranean style diet with like fat free dairy, or maybe some fish. And so I wanted to make sure that that was clear, because I was framing this content from a health standpoint strictly.
And so one of the best pieces of feedback I got actually was. I was talking to someone a week after I gave my 1st lecture, and they found out I was vegan, and they had no idea they were like, ‘I had no idea from your that you were Vegan!’ So it kind of validated that I was able to remove my own biases from an ethical stance, and I think it also makes people more receptive to just hearing about the health effects of plant forward diets.
And I think if we can create that shift alone, that’ll be a lot more effective going forward as opposed to just trying to get everyone vegan overnight. Maybe it’s not sustainable. Maybe they make too sudden of a change like we were talking about earlier.
I think you can also combine it with like…There’s spaces to talk about those things right like I might be talking about just health and nutrition in my lectures. But then, when I’m working with the climate change committee (at his school), I can talk about the environmental benefits of plant-based diets. And then I can also talk about ethics like on my social media page. I talk about Vegan ethics a little bit.
And so kind of tying all these together, it makes an overall case for Veganism, which I think is very strong, but I definitely try to make sure that I remove those biases in my lectures, and like I’ll give you one example:
You know, dairy’s been associated with reduced risk of colon cancer. There was studies more recently on yogurt, specifically probiotic, rich yogurt, and so like, I wouldn’t withhold that information in because of my own biases, because, 1st and foremost, I want to maintain my scientific credibility, and my reasons for veganism are more of an ethical stance as opposed to like plant-based diets for health, which I think you know, we should be eating mostly plant-based, but I don’t want to allow my biases to be all the way on that end, and, pretend that someone who’s eating you know the slightest amount of animal products is going to have different health outcomes.
Christine: A lot of good stuff there. Because if we think about, it we all have a bias don’t, we?
I think that you should be a bit concerned if somebody says that they don’t have a bias, because we all do right? Even people who eat, you know more of a ‘traditional diet’ with any kind of animal flesh, or anything like that.
So I think, too, about you know, there’s some folks who eat a certain diet because of their culture or their religion, etc. That is a bias that they have! But that doesn’t mean that from a health standpoint that they say that everyone else has to do it.
So I think this is so important, especially for us who identify as vegan to make that clear that it’s not the number one healthiest diet, because that does reduce our credibility, doesn’t it?… Based on the research, like, you mentioned… There’s lots of research about the Mediterranean diet that we have to acknowledge. And so yeah, really, good points!
Akash: I frame it sometimes, as you know, a vegan diet could be very unhealthy, or it can be really healthy, and have a healthy version of a vegan diet that can really support you to thrive. And that’s very clear. And so, if we can achieve all our goals. Whether that’s athletic performance. Just, you know, disease, prevention, just living a long, healthy life. If we can achieve all of those goals without contributing to everything that goes on in animal farming. And you know, seeing animals as a commodity that we can just use for our, whether it’s taste, pleasure, or for clothing, or whatever it may be, and without also having the burden on the environment, then it makes a lot of sense.
Christine: I think that a lot of people haven’t thought too, much about what actually happens in the animal industry, so it’s something that they might have to grapple with.
But yeah, good points about, you know, an unhealthy and a healthier Vegan diet, because sometimes you’ll see people going, vegan, for other intentions like- they heard that it was so good and could like do ‘all these things,’ and then they don’t learn about the nutrition side of things, and now they find that maybe they are fatigued because they have iron deficiency, or…. (etc, just giving a hypothetical example) and so I think that in a way, while some people want to advocate for the vegan diet and share that it is healthy, etc. It can be taken to that extreme of being the healthiest.
And so I really appreciate your education on your Instagram. I think you actually had a post talking about your your vegan bias, and how you tried to put that in the corner?
Akash: Yeah.
Christine: Very helpful!
Akash: Yeah, just trying to explain that because veganism is one of the only diets- like a vegan diet that might have multiple motives. There’s people who are in quotes -‘ junk food vegans.’ because their main motive is the ethics and so aren’t interested in the health benefits of a well planned or healthy version of a vegan diet.
And so I’ve definitely tried to, you know, relay that on Instagram. But you know how social media is. I’ll still have people when I’m presenting data, argue with me and say you’re biased because you’re vegan that’s just the Internet.
Christine: Right?
So it it’s a it’s a broader topic that’s hard to tackle, because you do have those people who say it is the healthiest, and spreading that message.
So I wonder if that’s why some people are so against vegan people, you know, saying, ‘Oh, you have a bias, etc.’ Another thing might just be the way that sometimes veganism comes across to people without it being intended.
Like, for example, I’m a dietitian, and sometimes, you know I’ve like said, ‘Oh, I’m vegan,’ and people automatically assume that I think it’s the healthiest diet, just because I’m a dietitian.
I have to explain: Well, this is more for the animal rights portion of it, and you can be healthy not on a vegan diet as well. So yeah, it’s like, it’s just like a
what do you call it?
Like a trigger word, almost – saying ‘you’re vegan.’
Akash: It’s definitely got a connotation with it now, and I think from a public health standpoint, you know most of our population, I believe 90 to 95% doesn’t hit fiber recommendations, you know, not eating enough fruits and vegetables.
So really, if we can work on the core issues of just getting more whole plants into people’s diets like that’s the big 1st step that’ll yield the most benefit, and then we can kind of work towards a more, plant forward diet.
Christine: Yeah, because it almost has like a wave of effect. Like, the more you go plant-based the more I feel like it…. just maybe it’s like the algorithms on social media like detecting what you’re looking at I don’t know! But eventually it’s like you learn about this vegan stuff. And then you make the decision right when you learn about what the practices are in the industry, about what you want to do.
So amazing that that was a really good conversation! I had to ask you that because I’m sure you get teased about your vegan bias. And so for the folks out there, you know, we all have biases. The question is, what do you do with it? And we need to make sure that we put it in its corner when we’re talking about public health.
Well, is there anything like you else you would like to share?
Akash: I think if anyone’s listening to this, if there’s any misconceptions or any preconceived notions that you have about veganism, it’s worth learning a bit more about it.
I think, like we said, there’s those negative connotations about veganism. Sometimes we have false perceptions about veganism. And so really, just taking the time to maybe follow a few evidence based, you know, plant-based dieticians online or doctors talking about plant-based nutrition.
I would follow some of the people that talk about Vegan ethics and really trying to understand what the core message here that we’re trying to get across. And so really just comes down to open mindedness, and I always say this like, if anyone’s trying to transition more towards a plant-based diet like my, my DMs are always open for that, and I’ll always make the time for that
Christine: Which is a nice segue into where they can find you and DM you. So where’s the best place?
Akash: I am mainly on Instagram. It’s at @_plantitude.
Like, ‘plant’ and ‘attitude’ combined
Christine: Oh, is that what? It is? Okay.
Akash: Like a plant-based attitude.
Christine: Very nice, I was. Gonna say, like, how did you come up with that name? So that’s it.
Akash: Yep.
Christine: Awesome, all right. So we will put that in the show notes so you guys can check him out and follow him and and keep up on all his medical school fun stuff that he has going on. And it was so wonderful having you on Akash!
Akash: Thank you for having me.
Christine: I wish, I would have remembered to ask Akash this on our podcast recording.
But we did talk about interprofessional collaboration after our recording was finished. And I’m happy to share that he is also getting dietitian input on his nutrition curriculum.
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